Frontier's Engine Model Codes

updated Sept15/09 by TomB

Horsepower Rating... by Randy Shore
Commentary... by Randy Shore
Secrets Revealed... by Larrie York

Horsepower Ratings in Deere Model Numbers

June 27/00.. by Randy Shore

With all the various horsepower ratings available from Deere, it is getting confusing just looking at 6081AG. There are 4 different horsepower ratings on this engine, from 250HP to 347HP. The price on the different horsepower pumps range from US$900 to US$1600. I have changed all the 450 series in stock, coming in and going back 1 year. This makes it easier when looking at sales reports.

I haven't quite figured out how to do the 350 series yet, as the model numbers we now use are already quite long. Any suggestions appreciated!

Commentary

April 5/00.. by Randy Shore

We are still not entering engine model #'s correctly and changing specific model numbers after we have made changes to the engine. Deere "code" changes also have to be made before the rollup is done. These code changes should be done before unit(s) are invoiced. There is a brief explanation of the JD model posted here. If you need further explanation or a hand clairifying what model you should use please call myself or Larrie.

A couple of examples : "6081AF" is not one of our models, it doesn't have enough info for us to determine what it really is. "4045DF150I#3" designates it a 4045D Industrial with a SAE #3 flywheel housing. But wait!...w/o 9778 says "swap hsg #3->#4" so we should change the model # back to 4045DF150I if it's basically one of our standard build units.

The ramifications: Incorrect model numbers create a bunch of extra work when we run reports and decide what we are ordering for stock. We have to go back, look at what the engine is (ie "G" drive, Variable speed with aux etc.) Code changes- MUST be done at time of invoice. When JD gets our rollup info they post the "codes" in a couple of places (microfiche and internet) so correct repair parts can be supllied through their parts network. If the customer has a machine working out of our territory and wanders into an Ag dealer he can get the right parts. This makes the customer happy. If he gets the wrong parts I don't want to be on the other end of his phone call.

The solutions:

Secrets Revealed

... Larrie York

1) The suffix letter "F" which Deere applies to most models just means that from their point of view it's an "O.E.M." engine. We don't care much about this. Randy or I usually (almost always) apply our own suffix letter(s) to the basic Deere model. The reason for this is so that we know what type of engines we're selling so that when we forecast and order engines the sales history on the computer (Sales Summary) sorts the engines for us. If we didn't do this, a 4045T could, for example be a "TF150" low horsepower, a "TF250" high horsepower, it could be a generator drive engine, could be marine or industrial. It might or might not have a pump or compressor auxiliary drive. As the right options are both essential and expensive we differentiate by the model suffix.

2) The commonly used suffixes are:

These are most of them. There's probably a couple of others that haven't occurred to me, but, you get the idea.

3) So.....in answer to the question, "Do we change the model number if we change the specs.?", The answer is "Yes", if it changes the model code. e.g. A work order to remove the aux drive from an engine with a model suffix "A", means that the "A" would disappear. The answer is "No" if the work order tasks do not affect our model suffix.

4) Now, all that being said, don't confuse changing the engine option codes with changing the model. In either case, model change/no model change, if we change the engine option codes of the engine we change the engine option codes for that serial number in ou system (using the EqView program) before the rollup (automated sales reporting) is done. As the automated sales reporting happens the day after an engine is invoiced, it is important to change the option codes in our system quickly.

Engine option code changes will just about always have corresponding "Y" parts (off-engine parts) charged or credited to a workorder that is then charged to the engine.